The future of our electric grid, the journey from Guadalajara, the wild parrots of Pasadena

UCLA’s Ursula Heise joined A Martinez on KPCC’s Take Two to talk about the thriving population of abut 3,000 Red-Crown parrots in Pasadena, a species that is endangered in Mexico. She explores the possibility of cities as an artificial ecosystem — and how they can be made more hospitable for people and wildlife.